ben bernanke, chairman of the fed saying hey guys, you got -- he's the one who came up with the term fiscal cliff. >> did he. >> bill: warning to members of congress. here he is yesterday. >> even though we've not yet even reached the point of the fiscal cliff potentially kicking in it is already affecting business investment and hiring decisions by creating uncertainty or creating pessimism. >> bill: front page of "the hill" today, cliff is already inflicting damage. it is because people don't know what the hell's going to happen. >> it will be interesting to see what ben bernanke says behind closed doors and the cursing he does at congress. he has to be rolling his eyes that we're at this point and at least publicly, we're nowhere. the clock is ticking and he was saying once again listen, don't minimize this. as president obama said, this is avoidable. they can do this. but if they don't do it and you go over the cliff then who knows what happens and then maybe it is irreversible, some of the damage. >> bill: barbara is on the line from columbus, new jersey. hey, barbara, good morn